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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 5, 2007 1:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

Come on, how boring will this be? Just go to youtube and google their shows together this past year (yawn). IRONY - often lost on the 2s of this world:

Steve Winwood and Eric Clapton
Three Nights Only at Madison Square Garden, New York
02.25 - 02.28

Winwood & Clapton by Gene Shaw
On the heels of a stunning collaboration at the Chicago Crossroads Guitar Festival (check out the coverage here) in July of 2007 and after much speculation, Steve Winwood and Eric Clapton announced three eagerly anticipated concerts at New York's Madison Square Garden. In what will be one of the must see shows of this decade Winwood and Clapton will perform together February 25, 26, 28, 2008.

I'm very excited about these upcoming shows with Eric. Blind Faith was a long time ago and we have both come a long way since then. It was a wonderful experience for me to play at Crossroads this summer and I'm really looking forward to exploring some more music together in February," said Winwood.

"I have wanted to play with Steve for a long time. I consider him a friend and a truly gifted musician. Our set at the Crossroads Festival this summer was a real treat, so I expect these shows will be good fun for us and for the fans," said Clapton.

Steve Winwood is currently signed to Columbia Records and will have a new album out in early 2008. Eric Clapton's current album Complete Clapton is available now on Reprise Records.

Ticket On-Sale Information:
Tickets will go on-sale first to American Express card members through a special pre-sale, beginning Monday, November 12 at 9 a.m. (EST). Tickets can be purchased via ticketmaster.com.

If tickets remain [FAT FUCKIN' CHANCE!] , a general on-sale date will follow on Monday, November 19 at 9 a.m. (EST).

http://www.whereseric.com/

On another note, anyone here want to go see John Mayall with Dave Mason on the 17th in Carmel with me?

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Poster: BryanE Date: Nov 5, 2007 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

Yeah, Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood---coupla geezers there, fer sure fer sure. Glad there are plenty of us still around---other old farts, that is---who couldn't give a shit less about more "relevant" acts (I could name a few of them in a show of sarcastic irony, but somebody's feelings would probably get hurt).

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Poster: patourkid Date: Nov 5, 2007 1:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

as long as you aint talkin bout Brittany!!!! cause if you is then thems fightin words!!!

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Poster: BryanE Date: Nov 5, 2007 2:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

NOOOO!!! Brit's career is back on the upswing, don'tcha know! The new album is getting solid reviews:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20153719,00.html
and lest we forget:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqtjOn9qVg4
(an augmented version)

Sorry, folks. At least we're not dredging that old dead smi2les dog.

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Poster: Sever Tomorrow Date: Nov 5, 2007 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

Hey! Maybe you guys can answer a question.
Why is it that If a bluesman or jazz musician is still around and performing when they are, say, 89, everyone thinks that's cool? "Wow man, he's 89 and still plays great!" yet, as the rockers get older, they are increasingly referred to as "geezers", old farts, etc.
There seesm to be some attitude that these people should hang it up and retire, they are too old to have anything meaningful to say. Yet these people are artists just the same, and want to do what they love 'til they drop, prefferably on stage, I bet!
This happens to the Stones alot; is it because they are all associated with a "youth culture" music?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 5, 2007 2:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

Sever - I think it's because a lot of them DON'T have anything new or interesting to say and expect you to pay out the ass for it - case in point the Stones that you mentioned.

There are plenty of old "rockers" who do - example Neil Young

Then there are musicians - example Santana.


Personally I'd be hard pressed to find any rock stars that are worth a shit after they rehab. How many can anyone name?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 5, 2007 2:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

Now, not saying all these guys went to rehab, but known to have had problems and thought they all put on some great shows after the years of excess
Iggy (saw him a bunch in late 80s/early 90s; consistently good shows; saw him turn 60 at the warfield w/ stooges and it kinda sucked, although mike watt was a monster on bass)
Lou - saw him w/ VU in Europe and several times post New York release. Always good.
Bowie - up and down, but seen several shows where he blew my mind and I really enjoyed the stuff he did with Trent Reznor (NIN - an incredibly dynamic live band)
Clapton - last year's tour with Derek Trucks taking Duane's place for Derek and Dominoes was damn good; I also thought some of the Cream reunion stuff sounded good.
Keef - Talk is Cheap album and tour w/ x-pensive winos way more interetsing than anything stones have done since late 70's
I'll come up with some more, but I do agree most don't produce the studio stuff that lives up to earlier hype, but then again, it's not like I think Modern Times is any bit less brilliant than John Wesley Harding.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 5, 2007 2:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

I saw Lou once, think it was the tour after the New York tour but before the VU reunion. GREAT show. That and Rickie Lee are probably the only shows I've seen barely making the 1.5 hour mark where I felt totally satisfied.

and keith gets a pass in my book. Dude is still alive, good enough for me

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Nov 5, 2007 2:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

I'd probably go see these geezers if I had the spare cash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rho_ajab5Ik

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 5, 2007 2:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

I wouldn't. I'd go see them for free though.

I saw them on their second " no we really mean it we're really quitting this time" tour in Boulder. I think it was the 90's. REAL good show, don't get me wrong. I think they played allmost all if not all of Tommy. The Real lame part was this was like one of only a couple of shows I EVER went to where I didn't have any. I tried to score some at the show and you'd think I was at a State Troopers convention with the looks I got just for asking. Rock is Dead indeed!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Nov 5, 2007 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

I saw them summer of '89. I had just gotten bailed out of Riverhead Jail (youthful indiscretions). Anyway, My pal gets me out and drives me to where I left my car so I could drive it back to his place (I was living there at the time). I get to my friends at around 2 or 3 and he tells me he's got tickets to the Who but he doesn't feel like going - and do I want the tickets. Sure I say, I'll take the tickets but I lost my license last night (the Cops took it) so I ask our other friend Jack if he wants to go, Sure he says "I'll Drive". So we drive to Meadowlands Stadium (the Cops happened to leave the stash in and around my car so we were supplied); and we saw the Who - and It was out-effing-standing one of the most laud and rockin' shows I had ever seen - I was truely amazed at the sound quality they achieved in a big stadium with the Volume they were pumping out. I was also amazed at the relatively good behavior of the crowd, didn't seem that rowdy and it seemed like everyone was having a good time. Then again I was just out of the Riverhead holding pen and happily flying on fungi so my perception of reality may have been slightly rose colored.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 5, 2007 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

I enjoyed it and I was pretty much completely sobor so I guess I could see why you enjoyed it that much more : )

I am disappointed they went on so quickly after Entwistle died though.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Nov 5, 2007 2:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Old farts better suited to the county fair (non-dead)

"is it because they are all associated with a 'youth culture' music?"

I would say that's probably at the center of that kind of thinking. When The Rolling Stones came along (since they are being sited as the example), they were seen by critics who belonged to the entertainment industry's old guard as central to all that was wrong with the music movement of the 1960's, just as Elvis was seen by it in the previous decade, and just as I, a self-proclaimed old fart, tend to see the hip hop movement of the 2000's. When those representatives of the "youth culture" continue doing the same thing in their 60's that they did in their 20's, when what they were doing was considered to be revolutionary, their work has a tendency to be dismissed as hackneyed.

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